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Feature Interview: Will distraction be our undoing?

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Whenever we talk about misinformation, the state of democracy, or what new technology is doing to public debate, one book comes up over and over again even though it was written 40 years ago. Amusing Ourselves to Death; Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by Neil Postman. It argued distraction would be our… Audio

Wednesday 4 March 2026

On today’s show

 

1:10 New All Blacks Coach announced - so what do experts think?

Wallabies coach Dave Rennie.

Wallabies coach Dave Rennie Photo: PHOTOSPORT

David Rennie has been named the new All Blacks coach, beating out Jamie Joseph for what many call the most pressured job in world rugby.

The former Chiefs and Wallabies coach will lead the national team through to the 2027 Rugby World Cup in Australia

Rennie also becomes the first All Blacks coach with Pasifika heritage. For reaction veteran sports journalist and broadcaster Phil Gifford chats to Jesse.

1:15 Iran Conflict: What could new leadership in Iran look like?

Associate professor at the University of Michigan Javed Ali.

Associate professor at the University of Michigan Javed Ali. Photo: Copyright Lifetouch Inc. 2021

In the hours after the attack on Iran, President Trump urged Iranians to "take over your government" and Prime Minister Netanyahu echoed that theme arguing that a regime change would be attainable. 

 President Trump has since mused on who could lead Iran, saying they need "somebody that’s there, that’s currently popular, if there is such a person". 

But is it up to President Trump to decide? The Islamic Republic of Iran has led the country since 1979, so how easy would a regime change actually be? and what would that look like anyway?

To help answer those questions Jesse is joined by Javed Ali is an associate professor at the University of Michigan. He has previously held positions at the Defense Intelligence Agency, the Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI. He also held a senior role at the National Security Council under the Trump Administration. 

1:20 Behind the scenes with Sol3 Mio's Pene Pati before his film's release

Tenor Pene Pati.

Tenor Pene Pati, from the documentary Tenor: My Name is Pati. Photo: Supplied / Rialto Distribution

You’ll know Pene Pati as one third of the much-loved Sol3 Mio

From singing in church halls in South Auckland with his brother Amitai Pati, to sold-out shows around the world and performing on some of the most prestigious opera stages, his journey has been nothing short of extraordinary.

Now that story has been captured in a new documentary 'Tenor: My Name Is Pati' which is in cinemas from tomorrow

1:30 From farm to eco-reserve: How Tahi was created

Twenty years ago, Tahi was a struggling cattle farm, today it's been transformed into a flourishing 800-acre eco-reserve on the Northland coast, home to 71 rare and endangered native birds.

Dr John Craig has been involved with Tahi's transformation. John is a former Professor of Environmental Management and Deputy Dean of Science at the University of Auckland and co-designed the Tiritiri Matangi Open Sanctuary.

He chats to Jesse.

1:45 Stories from Our Changing World

A diver holding a clipboard floats above a bare rock reef covered in long-spined urchins. It is day time as you can see the light blue behind him, and lots of fish in the background.

Dr Nick Shears surveys a centrostephanus barren at Ngoio rock in the Poor Knights Islands Photo: Paul Caiger

Our Changing World host Claire Concannon chats to Jesse about what she's been discovering this week. Today they talk about the native species centrostephanus, the long spined urchin, and how it is threatening the Poor Knights Island marine reserve.

2:10 Heading Off on a roadie through Africa

Chris Watson is riding a camel through the Sahara desert. He is shirtless. The sand behind him is very flat.

Photo: Supplied - Chris Watson

If you have a other travel story you'd like to share on Heading Off - then get in touch on 2101 or Jesse@afternoons.co.nz 

Today we're chatting to Chris Watson from Tauranga, about his road trip along the length of Africa.

2:20 Easy Eats: Spring Onion and Black Pepper Mac 'n' Cheese

Spring onion and black pepper mac 'n' cheese.

Spring onion and black pepper mac 'n' cheese. Photo: Kelly Gibney

Kelly Gibney joins Jesse to share a recipe - click here if you would like it. 

2:30 Bookmarks with Ockham NZ Book Award finalist Laura Vincent!

Writer Laura Vincent looks towards the camera in a moody black and white shot

Author Laura Vincent Photo: Julian Vincent

Time for Bookmarks, that's our weekly feature where we spend some time chatting to interesting people about what interests them.  

Today Laura Vincent is going to share what she likes to listen to, watch and read. 

Laura is a writer who recently published her first ever novel Hoods Landing, and just today she was announced as a finalist for the Ockham New Zealand Book Awards!

3:10 Music Critic: Gorillaz new album "The Mountain"

The 9th album by Gorillaz 'The Mountain' is out now.

The 9th album by Gorillaz 'The Mountain' is out now. Photo: Kong

Music critic Simon Sweetman joins Jesse to give his reckons on the Gorillaz latest album 'The Mountain'. It's the ninth album and arrives as the band celebrates its 25th anniversary - so has they stayed true to the sound their fans love them for?

3:30 Feature Interview: Will distraction be our undoing?

Andrew Postman

Photo: Andrew Postman

Whenever we talk about misinformation, the state of democracy, or what new technology is doing to public debate, one book comes up over and over again even though it was written 40 years ago. Amusing Ourselves to Death; Public Discourse in the Age of Show Business by Neil Postman.

It argued distraction would be our undoing, and once everything becomes entertainment, serious thought to take on serious issues is hard to come by. Neil Postman saw this coming long before social media feeds, constant scrolling, and smartphones in every pocket.  Andrew Postman is a writer and Neil Postman’s son, He wrote the introduction to the latest edition of his father’s prescient book. He offers insights into the man who sounded the warning about mindless screentime all those years ago.

3:45 The pre-Panel

Wallace Chapman previews tonight's edition of The Panel.

wallace chapman

Photo: wallace chapman